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Tooting Constitutional Club on Tooting High Street has Closed

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    Tooting Constitutional Club on Tooting High Street has Closed

    Does anybody have any idea what is happening to the Tooting Constitutional Club? It has been closed for about a month now with no signs of activity.

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    It could be related to the review of their Club Premises Certificate (paper 13-351 pdf) requested by the Metropolitan Police back in June this year. I remember that their license was suspended for a couple of weeks for them to improve things, but maybe they are still not satisfied.

    Here's a snippet from Wandsworth Council's Licensing Sub Committee meeting on 5 June 2013:
    The Sub-Committee then heard a submission by Sergeant W Humphreys of the Metropolitan Police.. He stated that the Police had received an anonymous call via their “Crimestoppers” hotline that alleged that drug taking and dealing were occurring in and around the Club. During a subsequent Police operation an individual was seen to be participating in what appeared to be a drug deal in Woodbury Street and he was approached by the Police. The individual ran into the Club through the open front door and following a pursuit on both floors of the premises he was apprehended. A search of the individual revealed he was in possession of 10 bags of white powder and the case is now being dealt with in the judicial system. The Club Steward was interviewed at the time of the incident and he appeared to be extremely inebriated. He could not operate the CCTV system so was asked to provide images subsequently to the Police. These images have never been provided. The next day Sergeant Humphrey and an officer from the Council’s Licensing Team visited the premises and a number of breaches of the conditions of the Club Premises Certificate were noted including the following....
    You can read the rest of it in the decision document from the meeting:
    http://ww3.wandsworth.gov.uk/moderng...8/Decision.pdf

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    The 'war on drugs' claims another victim. Sigh...

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    I only said it could be related to the review. It is possible that they have totally cleaned up their act and are closed for some other unrelated reason.

    From the same decision document (above), it's good to see that Sergeant W Humphreys of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) took the matter seriously enough to be willing to do something about it.
    In addition, Sergeant Humphreys carried out a number of drug wipe tests in the Gentlemanís toilets that tested positive for cocaine.

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    I see that this is now for sale at £3 million.

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    Thanks for the update, Stuart.

    The Tooting Constitutional Club, which has been closed for some time now, has indeed been put up for sale. The estate agents have listed this as "Large freehold for sale - development potential" and they are asking for offers over £3m.

    The site is located at 111-113 Tooting High Street SW17 0SU, on the corner with Woodbury Street. It's just one building along from Fisher & Co and it's just across the other side of the street to Mango Palace and Tota. It's an interesting place as it comes with a piece of land just behind it (on Woodbury Street) which was previously used as a bowling green and the size given for the entire site is around 0.487 acres / 21,214 sq feet (1,970 sq m).

    The estate agents have also predictably said that it would be suitable for alternative uses / redevelopment subject to obtaining the necessary consent from the council. I guess this is estate agent speak for - you can knock it down and build flats here.

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    Would make a lovely Tesco!

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    I think it will be swallowed up in the crossrail development with some flats and enabling development (shops Tesco/Waitrose whatever) - it's a big site and with the added rumour that the old folks place at the back will be part of the same crossrail development. The old folks place and part of Sainsbury car park used to be the original bowling green for the club with the present bowling green being only a small practice green. Nice old building especially the pavillion at the back - will be sad to see it go :-(

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    This section of Tooting is running the risk of being overdeveloped. So many tall blocks of flats with no character or soul. Identikit housing and not really adding to the fabric of Tooting which is sad.

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    It's not just this part of Tooting that is being redeveloped this is happening all over the entire SW17 area with many new residential developments in the offing for Mitcham Road, Upper Tooting Road, Garratt Lane, the Springfield Hospital site and so on.

    One option for this site, which is not flats, could be that the local council buys this for use by the local community but I would think that the chances of this would be highly unlikely as they would have to compete against the property developers for this site on the open market and they would not want to spend the money when they are cutting back on everything.

    More realistically, I think that the Tooting Constitutional Club site could make a good place for a retail shop with it being on the main road. However, as there currently isn't a shop at this site, property developers could potentially just build residential flats here with no retail space at all - which I would guess they would prefer to do. With this being an unusually large freehold site on a main road and close to good transport links, I think the property developers may well be clambering over this one.

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    So many tall blocks of flats with no character or soul. Identikit housing and not really adding to the fabric of Tooting which is sad.
    With the chances of this place becoming just a block of residential flats alone being very high, I thought this one might need some urgent intervention. So this lunchtime, I spoke to each of the new development people at Morrisons and John Lewis (that I had previously had contact with, regarding the Co-op) about the Tooting Constitutional Club site. They each said that they would take a look at this site with regards to seeing if it would be suitable for a Morrisons or Waitrose respectively. Some retailers don't do redevelopments and only take on existing shops but in this case both the gentleman from Morrisons and John Lewis said that they could do this if required. Hopefully one of them or another retailer (preferably one we don't already have in Tooting) will be interested in redeveloping this site into a proper retail shop, so that the site doesn't just become a big block of flats from top to bottom.
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